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	<title>Comments on: Reefer madness: an interlude</title>
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	<description>If there wasn't one before, it's time we started it...</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davebones</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/06/04/reefer-madness-an-interlude/#comment-12344</link>
		<dc:creator>davebones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its skunk which is the problem. I don't believe in victimless crime of any sort, but I know skunk is an unbalanced hybrid. Kids are waking up to this slowly I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its skunk which is the problem. I don&#8217;t believe in victimless crime of any sort, but I know skunk is an unbalanced hybrid. Kids are waking up to this slowly I think.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/06/04/reefer-madness-an-interlude/#comment-12281</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I'll return to this one because I want to ask who decides what the dividing line between the parameters of normality and abnormality are.

The ruthless and selfish drive exhibited by people with strong psychopathic tendencies is quite sought after in managers, for example, while there is a pretty clear link between schizophrenic tendencies and creativity.

So, I wonder, what personality traits do you need in order to become a high-rank politician and how strong would those traits have to be to make you stand out from the crowd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ll return to this one because I want to ask who decides what the dividing line between the parameters of normality and abnormality are.</p>
<p>The ruthless and selfish drive exhibited by people with strong psychopathic tendencies is quite sought after in managers, for example, while there is a pretty clear link between schizophrenic tendencies and creativity.</p>
<p>So, I wonder, what personality traits do you need in order to become a high-rank politician and how strong would those traits have to be to make you stand out from the crowd?</p>
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		<title>By: Woobegone</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/06/04/reefer-madness-an-interlude/#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>Woobegone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John B : Hang on, there's a lot more to it than that... That page is about just one study - the "myth" of a link between cannabis and psychosis doesn't rely on that one paper. It's not as if the NHS are completely dismissive of that paper, anyway.

To call the possible link a myth is silly. It's a respectable scientific theory - it may turn out not to be true, but it's a serious proposal. There is now a huge amount of evidence that early (adolescent), heavy cannabis use is correlated with a higher risk of psychosis in later life. This is established fact. Now, correlation obviously doesn't prove causation, but there is other relevant evidence - giving cannabis to already psychotic people makes their symptoms worse, for example.

Personally I'm in two minds about the theory - all the evidence so far could in theory be explained away - but it is a pretty powerful one. For once this isn't just the Daily Mail creating a scare (although they have, naturally, blown the truth out of all proportion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John B : Hang on, there&#8217;s a lot more to it than that&#8230; That page is about just one study - the &#8220;myth&#8221; of a link between cannabis and psychosis doesn&#8217;t rely on that one paper. It&#8217;s not as if the NHS are completely dismissive of that paper, anyway.</p>
<p>To call the possible link a myth is silly. It&#8217;s a respectable scientific theory - it may turn out not to be true, but it&#8217;s a serious proposal. There is now a huge amount of evidence that early (adolescent), heavy cannabis use is correlated with a higher risk of psychosis in later life. This is established fact. Now, correlation obviously doesn&#8217;t prove causation, but there is other relevant evidence - giving cannabis to already psychotic people makes their symptoms worse, for example.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;m in two minds about the theory - all the evidence so far could in theory be explained away - but it is a pretty powerful one. For once this isn&#8217;t just the Daily Mail creating a scare (although they have, naturally, blown the truth out of all proportion).</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/06/04/reefer-madness-an-interlude/#comment-12263</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(for the purposes of this discussion I'd categorise crimes against the person as a form of ill-health reflecting the more basic state of relationship between an individual and society, as being directly between two individuals rather than indirectly involving third parties through the social-financial transaction)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(for the purposes of this discussion I&#8217;d categorise crimes against the person as a form of ill-health reflecting the more basic state of relationship between an individual and society, as being directly between two individuals rather than indirectly involving third parties through the social-financial transaction)</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/06/04/reefer-madness-an-interlude/#comment-12261</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article Laurie, I'm with you on this one, but I still think you could go further in your development of the argument regarding drugs.

The anti-drug perspective gains advantage by mounting a simultaneous barrage of attacks from the health lobby and the crime lobby. Since neither is sustainable alone they work in combination to the same effect, and so until opponents of prohibition learn to conjoin counter-arguments to show the links between criminality and ill-health the ideological battle will remain unresolved.

The solution to ill-health is education and exercise; the solution to crime is toleration and taxation. The taxation pays for the education.

Wasn't Al Capone imprisoned for tax evasion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article Laurie, I&#8217;m with you on this one, but I still think you could go further in your development of the argument regarding drugs.</p>
<p>The anti-drug perspective gains advantage by mounting a simultaneous barrage of attacks from the health lobby and the crime lobby. Since neither is sustainable alone they work in combination to the same effect, and so until opponents of prohibition learn to conjoin counter-arguments to show the links between criminality and ill-health the ideological battle will remain unresolved.</p>
<p>The solution to ill-health is education and exercise; the solution to crime is toleration and taxation. The taxation pays for the education.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t Al Capone imprisoned for tax evasion?</p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
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		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NHS has &lt;a href="http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/06June/Pages/Cannabisuseandpsychosis.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;an excellent health myth busting website&lt;/a&gt;, which successfully busts the cannabis psychosis health myth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NHS has <a href="http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/06June/Pages/Cannabisuseandpsychosis.aspx" rel="nofollow">an excellent health myth busting website</a>, which successfully busts the cannabis psychosis health myth.</p>
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