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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-23489</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rockefeller and the Microchipped population, Feminism, 9-11 etc.

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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-20988</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From about 1900 the UK had remarkably low levels of crime. In the 1950s if a umarmed Policeman faced down an armed robber they would probably end up with the George Medal , now it is hardly mentioned.

In reality certain males are larger, have more energy and more boisterous than others. Sir Henry Cooper has recently mentioned once again how effective boxing is at keeping boisterous males on the straight and narrow- a comment made by Brendan Ingles, the Sheffield boxing coach. Amir Khan's Father took him to the boxing club because he was a handful. Part of the problem is that there are inadequate activties  and jobs for tough, strong, energetic and bositerous young males . If there are such clubs then the trainers can become Father figures to the young boys. In society , it is unlikely that a single action controls events.  When boys started work at 14 they entered the adult World and had to become responsible for their actions. and therefore tended to become more responsible.  A combination of a lack of demanding work ( physical and./or mental and physically tough exercise is the perfect mix for fulfilling the situation of " The devil finds mischief foir idle hands". If a single Mother can find an outlet for hers sons boisterous energy such as boxing, rugby, rowing , athletics  or martial arts which require training 3  or more times a week for 1.5-2 hrs a session, then problems are far less likely to develop. Teen age boys can be like  young working dogs: they thrive on good training and  plenty of  hard exercise  out of doors  : keep them cooped up in a small home and they can turn nasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From about 1900 the UK had remarkably low levels of crime. In the 1950s if a umarmed Policeman faced down an armed robber they would probably end up with the George Medal , now it is hardly mentioned.</p>
<p>In reality certain males are larger, have more energy and more boisterous than others. Sir Henry Cooper has recently mentioned once again how effective boxing is at keeping boisterous males on the straight and narrow- a comment made by Brendan Ingles, the Sheffield boxing coach. Amir Khan&#8217;s Father took him to the boxing club because he was a handful. Part of the problem is that there are inadequate activties  and jobs for tough, strong, energetic and bositerous young males . If there are such clubs then the trainers can become Father figures to the young boys. In society , it is unlikely that a single action controls events.  When boys started work at 14 they entered the adult World and had to become responsible for their actions. and therefore tended to become more responsible.  A combination of a lack of demanding work ( physical and./or mental and physically tough exercise is the perfect mix for fulfilling the situation of &#8221; The devil finds mischief foir idle hands&#8221;. If a single Mother can find an outlet for hers sons boisterous energy such as boxing, rugby, rowing , athletics  or martial arts which require training 3  or more times a week for 1.5-2 hrs a session, then problems are far less likely to develop. Teen age boys can be like  young working dogs: they thrive on good training and  plenty of  hard exercise  out of doors  : keep them cooped up in a small home and they can turn nasty.</p>
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		<title>By: Woobegone</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-19634</link>
		<dc:creator>Woobegone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger : Actually, I'm fairly sure we did. Have you ever read Dickens? Unless you have statistics to prove otherwise, and can explain why we should trust them given that most crime went unreported...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger : Actually, I&#8217;m fairly sure we did. Have you ever read Dickens? Unless you have statistics to prove otherwise, and can explain why we should trust them given that most crime went unreported&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-19629</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s as Graham says, this causes families problems, especially when those parents also suffer from being stifled by the lack of opportunities or impoverished society around them, not mothers being too weak to control their sons.

Ignorant nonsense. In the early 20th C., Society was far more poorer than most of us can imagine and large section of the population lived in overcrowded and digusting slums. Yet we didn't have adolescent boys stabbed to death almost weekly in London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s as Graham says, this causes families problems, especially when those parents also suffer from being stifled by the lack of opportunities or impoverished society around them, not mothers being too weak to control their sons.</p>
<p>Ignorant nonsense. In the early 20th C., Society was far more poorer than most of us can imagine and large section of the population lived in overcrowded and digusting slums. Yet we didn&#8217;t have adolescent boys stabbed to death almost weekly in London.</p>
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		<title>By: venom</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-18757</link>
		<dc:creator>venom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>conservative mother of 4, just read another comment of yours above about abortion. 
i just have one question. 
what if a women was raped? can she no abort?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>conservative mother of 4, just read another comment of yours above about abortion.<br />
i just have one question.<br />
what if a women was raped? can she no abort?</p>
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		<title>By: venom</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-18756</link>
		<dc:creator>venom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mother of 4, 
your stats only represent americian families, what about the rest of the world?
Also one parent families, may not be due to anyone's fault, there are to many reasons and all are individual ones, people are to quick to judge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mother of 4,<br />
your stats only represent americian families, what about the rest of the world?<br />
Also one parent families, may not be due to anyone&#8217;s fault, there are to many reasons and all are individual ones, people are to quick to judge</p>
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		<title>By: steven spielberg and video games</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-17117</link>
		<dc:creator>steven spielberg and video games</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;steven spielberg and video games...&lt;/strong&gt;

As you seem to know what your doing blogging wise, do you know what the best time of the week is to blog and have them read?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>steven spielberg and video games&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>As you seem to know what your doing blogging wise, do you know what the best time of the week is to blog and have them read?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Homfray</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-17056</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Homfray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marriage seems to be the defining characteristic of economically successful families.

No.

Those families which opt for marriage are more likely to be stable. Simply forcing couples to marry will do nothing to change the quality of those relationships.

Marriage follows, not reflects or creates, stability</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marriage seems to be the defining characteristic of economically successful families.</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>Those families which opt for marriage are more likely to be stable. Simply forcing couples to marry will do nothing to change the quality of those relationships.</p>
<p>Marriage follows, not reflects or creates, stability</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Homfray</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-17055</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Homfray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that the description of stroppy, aggressive males appears to be accepted as a given, rather than a social construction.

there was a need , perhaps, for such a person in the past, whether that be to do manual work or as cannon-fodder.

But now? No. So, traditional ways of socialising and rearing boys may have to change. If not, plenty of square pegs for an ever growing number of round holes.

Being 'boisterous' and 'strong-willed' is largely learned behaviour and whilst we still rate that sort of behaviour as desirable in young boys, then expect teenage thugs and adult criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that the description of stroppy, aggressive males appears to be accepted as a given, rather than a social construction.</p>
<p>there was a need , perhaps, for such a person in the past, whether that be to do manual work or as cannon-fodder.</p>
<p>But now? No. So, traditional ways of socialising and rearing boys may have to change. If not, plenty of square pegs for an ever growing number of round holes.</p>
<p>Being &#8216;boisterous&#8217; and &#8217;strong-willed&#8217; is largely learned behaviour and whilst we still rate that sort of behaviour as desirable in young boys, then expect teenage thugs and adult criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie Rigg</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-16760</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie Rigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>newsflash: raising /any/ child is nerve wracking and exhausting. If you're not prepared for that, you shouldn't even start.

You have a lot of ifs and buts, and I would suggest that all of them can be matched with counter examples. Here's a radical notion for you: why not treat EVERY person as an individual? Gender lines are only ever an approximation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>newsflash: raising /any/ child is nerve wracking and exhausting. If you&#8217;re not prepared for that, you shouldn&#8217;t even start.</p>
<p>You have a lot of ifs and buts, and I would suggest that all of them can be matched with counter examples. Here&#8217;s a radical notion for you: why not treat EVERY person as an individual? Gender lines are only ever an approximation.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-16754</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee and Jennie , I said many not all.  In reality what percentage of Mothers are keen to take part in contact sports with their sons compared to Fathers.  How many Mothers are good at teaching scrummaging techniques , rugby tackling or boxing to their sons ? Generally my Mother could not able physically control me after the age of 12  as I was much physically stronger than she was. My Mother was 5 ft 6 , strong willed and owned her own business. A battle of wills with my Mother  became a regular event.   Some  teen age boys can be over 6 ft and 13st  of  bone and muscle by the time they are 16  years of age and be extremely difficult to control. Try looking at the size of an under 18 rugby team- there are lads who are 6 ft 4 and 17 st!  In all honesty how many Mothers can control sons sof this size.  All they can do is ask the son to leave home.  How many teen agers are in council care, in young offenders institutes or  living on the streets because the parents could no longer control them? If one looks at the apparent increase in attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, dyslexia, Aspergers  Syndrome and dispraxia  sufferers  are approximately  90% boys and 10 % girls .  The combination of hyperactivity and a large , strong and physically tough boy  is perfect recipe for trouble . Many of those in prison would appear to have low education attainments largely due to learning difficulties.  Many sons are good at pulling the wool over their Mothers eyes.  Honest Mum it was'nt  me or I won't do it again -honest!   As Dianne Abbott said too many parents do not ask questions as to the activties of their children. If the Father was a boisterous and strong willed teenager, always getting into scrapes and fights, then they probably have a better  appreciation of their sons' behaviour. My Father told me from a young age  either do not break the rules or if caught accept the punishment and  not  to whine.   I was an only child but if my Mother had had to deal with several sons all as boisterous as me or even worse, then her life would have been absolutely nerve racking and totally exhausting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee and Jennie , I said many not all.  In reality what percentage of Mothers are keen to take part in contact sports with their sons compared to Fathers.  How many Mothers are good at teaching scrummaging techniques , rugby tackling or boxing to their sons ? Generally my Mother could not able physically control me after the age of 12  as I was much physically stronger than she was. My Mother was 5 ft 6 , strong willed and owned her own business. A battle of wills with my Mother  became a regular event.   Some  teen age boys can be over 6 ft and 13st  of  bone and muscle by the time they are 16  years of age and be extremely difficult to control. Try looking at the size of an under 18 rugby team- there are lads who are 6 ft 4 and 17 st!  In all honesty how many Mothers can control sons sof this size.  All they can do is ask the son to leave home.  How many teen agers are in council care, in young offenders institutes or  living on the streets because the parents could no longer control them? If one looks at the apparent increase in attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, dyslexia, Aspergers  Syndrome and dispraxia  sufferers  are approximately  90% boys and 10 % girls .  The combination of hyperactivity and a large , strong and physically tough boy  is perfect recipe for trouble . Many of those in prison would appear to have low education attainments largely due to learning difficulties.  Many sons are good at pulling the wool over their Mothers eyes.  Honest Mum it was&#8217;nt  me or I won&#8217;t do it again -honest!   As Dianne Abbott said too many parents do not ask questions as to the activties of their children. If the Father was a boisterous and strong willed teenager, always getting into scrapes and fights, then they probably have a better  appreciation of their sons&#8217; behaviour. My Father told me from a young age  either do not break the rules or if caught accept the punishment and  not  to whine.   I was an only child but if my Mother had had to deal with several sons all as boisterous as me or even worse, then her life would have been absolutely nerve racking and totally exhausting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-16344</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie, you fall prey to the idea that boxing, rugby and cricket are male only activities, and that sewing, cooking and painting are female only activities.

I take my daughter climbing, she is itching to be big enough to ride pillion on my motorbike, and the person who is teaching her to cook is her granddad (who was a chef, as well as a rugby player ;)) My fiance is several stones heavier than me; I can lift and carry him, but he can only just lift me. And you know what? We are ALL happy with this situation.

Not all women are delicate flowers of physical incapability, and not all men are lumbering idiots, only capable of physicality, and I really wish we would stop trying to enforce a model of society in which both men and women are diminished by being expected to fit into these stupid and restrictive gender roles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie, you fall prey to the idea that boxing, rugby and cricket are male only activities, and that sewing, cooking and painting are female only activities.</p>
<p>I take my daughter climbing, she is itching to be big enough to ride pillion on my motorbike, and the person who is teaching her to cook is her granddad (who was a chef, as well as a rugby player ;)) My fiance is several stones heavier than me; I can lift and carry him, but he can only just lift me. And you know what? We are ALL happy with this situation.</p>
<p>Not all women are delicate flowers of physical incapability, and not all men are lumbering idiots, only capable of physicality, and I really wish we would stop trying to enforce a model of society in which both men and women are diminished by being expected to fit into these stupid and restrictive gender roles.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Many Mothers , if they they only have sisters, find boisterous sons totally baffling as they appear to have totally different interests to themselves when they were at they age."

I don't think I can agree with this.

"Very few women have the strength to cope with say 2 or more large stroppy sons over the age of 12."

I think you're entirely sexist personally, you don't need "strength" to keep your sons in check you just need discipline and a good relationship. People have long been "put in their place" not because the person in power is the strongest but because they're the most ruthless or dominant.

You slightly do hit on a point though, and that is that there is not enough of an outlet for kids in some areas. I feel quite privileged in that I was able to roam around my town with enough space to play. I could go up to the local fields and play on the war monument, or go to one of several parks or football pitches, or even run around my school grounds after hours. My school did participatory lunch and after school clubs and there were other groups and hobby clubs that you could join readily.

Now compare that for "letting out energy" to what some kids have in inner-city locations, maybe a run down park, certainly no green space to run about and play in, certainly not for free. Schools seem to have a varying level of engagement with extra-curricular activities and all of this just adds up to people being frustrated, bored and feel their aspirations and imaginations drained. 

It's as Graham says, this causes families problems, especially when those parents also suffer from being stifled by the lack of opportunities or impoverished society around them, not mothers being too weak to control their sons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many Mothers , if they they only have sisters, find boisterous sons totally baffling as they appear to have totally different interests to themselves when they were at they age.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I can agree with this.</p>
<p>&#8220;Very few women have the strength to cope with say 2 or more large stroppy sons over the age of 12.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re entirely sexist personally, you don&#8217;t need &#8220;strength&#8221; to keep your sons in check you just need discipline and a good relationship. People have long been &#8220;put in their place&#8221; not because the person in power is the strongest but because they&#8217;re the most ruthless or dominant.</p>
<p>You slightly do hit on a point though, and that is that there is not enough of an outlet for kids in some areas. I feel quite privileged in that I was able to roam around my town with enough space to play. I could go up to the local fields and play on the war monument, or go to one of several parks or football pitches, or even run around my school grounds after hours. My school did participatory lunch and after school clubs and there were other groups and hobby clubs that you could join readily.</p>
<p>Now compare that for &#8220;letting out energy&#8221; to what some kids have in inner-city locations, maybe a run down park, certainly no green space to run about and play in, certainly not for free. Schools seem to have a varying level of engagement with extra-curricular activities and all of this just adds up to people being frustrated, bored and feel their aspirations and imaginations drained. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s as Graham says, this causes families problems, especially when those parents also suffer from being stifled by the lack of opportunities or impoverished society around them, not mothers being too weak to control their sons.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, you seem to ignore the fact that looking after stroppy sons is tiring work. Many teen age sons are too large , strong and stroppy for a Mother to control  : I know I was .
Also  many teen age sons enjoy the benefit os undertaking physically tough activities  with their Fathers. My Mother had problems teaching me to box , play rugby and cicket. but was excellent at teaching painting ,sowing and cooking but I was not interested in these  activities. My Mother, coming from an artistic background found my enthusiasm for playing out of doors in all weathers from dawn to dusk , being oblivious to the cold, rain and mud and invariably turning up in the evening looking as if I had been dragged through several bushes and swamp backwards very baffling. Many Mothers , if they they only have sisters, find boisterous sons totally baffling as they appear to have totally different interests to themselves when they were at they age. Part of the reason why boys are falling back at school is that education had become overly feminised.  How many primary schools have men teachers who can supervise rugby, cricket or boxing? Many fit boys need an hour of tough sports every day from the age of 7 -8 in order to release their energy. The Father of Amir Khan took him t the local boxing club because he was a handful. Many comprehensives have a shortage of male teachers who can take arduous activtites. Many boys  fall by the wayside because they never have had tough and caring male role  model in their life.  From the age of 9 ,I was a typical mischievous boy who needed a firm hand and plenty of arduous exercise every day as do many boys.  Very few women have the strength to cope with say 2 or more  large stroppy sons over the age of 12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, you seem to ignore the fact that looking after stroppy sons is tiring work. Many teen age sons are too large , strong and stroppy for a Mother to control  : I know I was .<br />
Also  many teen age sons enjoy the benefit os undertaking physically tough activities  with their Fathers. My Mother had problems teaching me to box , play rugby and cicket. but was excellent at teaching painting ,sowing and cooking but I was not interested in these  activities. My Mother, coming from an artistic background found my enthusiasm for playing out of doors in all weathers from dawn to dusk , being oblivious to the cold, rain and mud and invariably turning up in the evening looking as if I had been dragged through several bushes and swamp backwards very baffling. Many Mothers , if they they only have sisters, find boisterous sons totally baffling as they appear to have totally different interests to themselves when they were at they age. Part of the reason why boys are falling back at school is that education had become overly feminised.  How many primary schools have men teachers who can supervise rugby, cricket or boxing? Many fit boys need an hour of tough sports every day from the age of 7 -8 in order to release their energy. The Father of Amir Khan took him t the local boxing club because he was a handful. Many comprehensives have a shortage of male teachers who can take arduous activtites. Many boys  fall by the wayside because they never have had tough and caring male role  model in their life.  From the age of 9 ,I was a typical mischievous boy who needed a firm hand and plenty of arduous exercise every day as do many boys.  Very few women have the strength to cope with say 2 or more  large stroppy sons over the age of 12.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-16032</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservate Mom of 4

Statistics which show a correlation between family 'breakdown' and social problems are fairly meaningless without further analysis.  If anything it is more likely that social problems cause family problems, not the other way around.</description>
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<p>Statistics which show a correlation between family &#8216;breakdown&#8217; and social problems are fairly meaningless without further analysis.  If anything it is more likely that social problems cause family problems, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-16028</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm slightly amused by the idea that this issue 'only impacts on women', as if men and women live wholly separate lives in separate communities.  Women's rights are human rights,  and the degree to which human rights are respected and protected affects us all.  The logic of the point about male doctors and MPs deciding on 'women issues' is that only women should be allowed to make such decisions.  Does this mean only gay men can legislate on 'gay issues' or only minorities can legislate on minority rights issues?  

Having said that - totally support the freedom of people to access IVF and to raise a family how they see fit.  The idea that every child needs a father and mother is not only nonsense it is also counter to the experiences of children since the dawn of time.  Fatherless families are not a 21st century invention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m slightly amused by the idea that this issue &#8216;only impacts on women&#8217;, as if men and women live wholly separate lives in separate communities.  Women&#8217;s rights are human rights,  and the degree to which human rights are respected and protected affects us all.  The logic of the point about male doctors and MPs deciding on &#8216;women issues&#8217; is that only women should be allowed to make such decisions.  Does this mean only gay men can legislate on &#8216;gay issues&#8217; or only minorities can legislate on minority rights issues?  </p>
<p>Having said that - totally support the freedom of people to access IVF and to raise a family how they see fit.  The idea that every child needs a father and mother is not only nonsense it is also counter to the experiences of children since the dawn of time.  Fatherless families are not a 21st century invention.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-14763</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last census said 70%, this number is dropping, and it's long been said that the census isn't an accurate way (even though it's the most accurate way) of determining religious belief as single people in families can prescribe religion on all of the family, and people can define themselves as Christian without being practicing or even believing. But any figures that help the arrogant bigots in this dwindling demographic retain their illusion of power and supposed authority  will clearly be grasped at wholeheartedly, even if completely false as the above poster shows.

The answer, Woobegone, is that they may be stupid, and they may be lazy, but in reality they just aren't that powerful any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last census said 70%, this number is dropping, and it&#8217;s long been said that the census isn&#8217;t an accurate way (even though it&#8217;s the most accurate way) of determining religious belief as single people in families can prescribe religion on all of the family, and people can define themselves as Christian without being practicing or even believing. But any figures that help the arrogant bigots in this dwindling demographic retain their illusion of power and supposed authority  will clearly be grasped at wholeheartedly, even if completely false as the above poster shows.</p>
<p>The answer, Woobegone, is that they may be stupid, and they may be lazy, but in reality they just aren&#8217;t that powerful any more.</p>
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		<title>By: ukliberty</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-14762</link>
		<dc:creator>ukliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservative Mom of 4, grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative Mom of 4, grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Woobegone</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-14760</link>
		<dc:creator>Woobegone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Christians make up approximately 80% of our society yet for the sake a few our Christian rights are being infringed upon so we don’t offend the few."

Well then it's amazing that this overwhelming majority living in a democratic country haven't worked out that they could easily just vote to stop this happening isn't it? They must either be stupid, or lazy, or both - which is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Christians make up approximately 80% of our society yet for the sake a few our Christian rights are being infringed upon so we don’t offend the few.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well then it&#8217;s amazing that this overwhelming majority living in a democratic country haven&#8217;t worked out that they could easily just vote to stop this happening isn&#8217;t it? They must either be stupid, or lazy, or both - which is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/24/lesbian-mothers-and-traditional-families/#comment-14759</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're a very good troll, that's for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a very good troll, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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