Comments on: Emily Thornberry and 24 weeks http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/ If there wasn't one before, it's time we started it... Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:57:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: kate belgrave http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10813 kate belgrave Wed, 21 May 2008 20:01:51 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10813 Jeez Squirrel - that's a tight grab on the nuts, man. That's the first time I've been accused of a love affair with a Labour politician. Usually, people say I'm too harsh and buggering up their chances of re-election. Criticism from eagle-eyed punters like yoursefl is always useful, but I thought'd I'd helpfully suggest that you to learn to read b4 trying your hand again - the 'wide and startled eyes' line was a sarcastic remark about David Miliband, not a luvvy remark about Thornberry. I say in the article above that Miliband has 'wide and startled eyes' that put me in mind of a fawn with a finger up its ass. That wasn't supposed to be a compliment but hey - maybe it is in Squirrel-land. Probably puts you in mind of a good Friday night, eh? Come back soon. Jeez Squirrel - that’s a tight grab on the nuts, man. That’s the first time I’ve been accused of a love affair with a Labour politician. Usually, people say I’m too harsh and buggering up their chances of re-election.

Criticism from eagle-eyed punters like yoursefl is always useful, but I thought’d I’d helpfully suggest that you to learn to read b4 trying your hand again - the ‘wide and startled eyes’ line was a sarcastic remark about David Miliband, not a luvvy remark about Thornberry. I say in the article above that Miliband has ‘wide and startled eyes’ that put me in mind of a fawn with a finger up its ass. That wasn’t supposed to be a compliment but hey - maybe it is in Squirrel-land. Probably puts you in mind of a good Friday night, eh?

Come back soon.

]]> By: Squirrel Nutkin http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10806 Squirrel Nutkin Wed, 21 May 2008 18:13:11 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10806 Surely Emily Thornberry must have enormously "wide and startled eyes", what with Kate Belgrave in her entirety being so far up her butt: this kind of hagiography belongs - in style and in content - in Labour News, not on Liberal Conspiracy! I've seen aged nuns being more disrespectful of the Virgin Mary than this. Surely Emily Thornberry must have enormously “wide and startled eyes”, what with Kate Belgrave in her entirety being so far up her butt: this kind of hagiography belongs - in style and in content - in Labour News, not on Liberal Conspiracy! I’ve seen aged nuns being more disrespectful of the Virgin Mary than this.

]]> By: abs http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10802 abs Wed, 21 May 2008 17:16:02 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10802 No she wont. Labour absolutely crushed the LDems in Islington on May 1st. The LDems and actually came third behind the Tories! in Islington! and the LD council is hated by all and will definetly be booted out in 2010. She will be one of the few Labour MP's to increse her maj substantially. London 2008 results - Islington South & Finsbury (new boundaries): {Excluding postal votes} Mayor: Lab - 10,928 (44.60%), C - 8,410 (34.33%), LD - 2,850 (11.63%), Green - 1,210 (4.94%) Constituency Vote, (North East): Lab - 8,380 (34.48%), C - 5,727 (23.56%), LD - 4,806 (19.77%), Green - 3,184 (13.10%) List: Lab - 7,838 (32.10%), C - 5,453 (22.33%), LD - 3,846 (15.75%), Green - 3,399 (13.92%) POSTAL VOTES for whole of Islington: Mayor: Lab - 4,751 (44.91%), C - 3,255 (30.77%), LD - 1,439 (13.60%), Green - 600 (5.67%) Constituency: Lab - 3,694 (35.31%), C - 2,582 (24.68%), LD - 1,990 (19.02%), Green - 1,420 (13.57%) List: Lab - 3,395 (32.49%), C - 2,509 (24.01%), LD - 1,612 (15.43%), Green - 1,495 (14.31%) Islington South & Finsbury represented 49.25% / 49.17% / 49.20% of non-postal Islington votes for the 3 sections respectively. No she wont. Labour absolutely crushed the LDems in Islington on May 1st. The LDems and actually came third behind the Tories! in Islington! and the LD council is hated by all and will definetly be booted out in 2010. She will be one of the few Labour MP’s to increse her maj substantially.

London 2008 results - Islington South & Finsbury (new boundaries):
{Excluding postal votes}

Mayor:
Lab - 10,928 (44.60%), C - 8,410 (34.33%), LD - 2,850 (11.63%), Green - 1,210 (4.94%)

Constituency Vote, (North East):
Lab - 8,380 (34.48%), C - 5,727 (23.56%), LD - 4,806 (19.77%), Green - 3,184 (13.10%)

List:
Lab - 7,838 (32.10%), C - 5,453 (22.33%), LD - 3,846 (15.75%), Green - 3,399 (13.92%)

POSTAL VOTES for whole of Islington:

Mayor: Lab - 4,751 (44.91%), C - 3,255 (30.77%), LD - 1,439 (13.60%), Green - 600 (5.67%)

Constituency: Lab - 3,694 (35.31%), C - 2,582 (24.68%), LD - 1,990 (19.02%), Green - 1,420 (13.57%)

List: Lab - 3,395 (32.49%), C - 2,509 (24.01%), LD - 1,612 (15.43%), Green - 1,495 (14.31%)

Islington South & Finsbury represented 49.25% / 49.17% / 49.20% of non-postal Islington votes for the 3 sections respectively.

]]> By: Chris Keating http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10790 Chris Keating Wed, 21 May 2008 11:57:12 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10790 I find myself agreeing, possible for the first time, with Emily Thornberry. She's still going to lose her seat though. I find myself agreeing, possible for the first time, with Emily Thornberry.

She’s still going to lose her seat though.

]]> By: alison http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10714 alison Tue, 20 May 2008 14:13:05 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/20/emily-thornberry-and-24-weeks/#comment-10714 Emily is my local MP and stays in touch on this issue and bothers to respond to her constituents. You should link to some of her terrific debates in the HoP on the issue as an example. "Labour traditionally has taken a liberal view on abortion rights" Leaving Nadine aside, so have the Tories. Given this is a free vote I hope that her argument re Labour MPs carries over to the liberal Tories also or we are in trouble. "They (MPs) are mostly men. They’re not going to think about abortion, and they are afraid that if they put their head above the parapet, that the Catholic lobby… the Baptist lobby… whatever it is… [they] will lose their seats.’" Yup re the male MPs generally though it was still male MPs who brought the original legislation to bear on case law originally. I don't think the feminists can claim this and i would rather they did not as it polarises the issue further. The religious issue you touch on for example. We can thank the American Right for that. The influence they have had over here in recent years has been growing and their tactics brought across. If we do want to fight this properly in the future the last thing you want to do is polarise it further with feminists being the only people involved in applying pressure. That is precisely what they want to happen.The way that has worked out in America has been to the pro choice lobby's detriment. I do not want to see the American approach to abortion duplicated over here. "the requirement for two doctors’ signatures for women who want abortions". That didn't really feature as an issue for myself or any of the women who have had abortions. So i won't be a compromise of any sorts that MPs can comsole themselves with. The more pressing issue is the lack of doctors willing to specialise and better access to the abortion pill. Emily is my local MP and stays in touch on this issue and bothers to respond to her constituents. You should link to some of her terrific debates in the HoP on the issue as an example.

“Labour traditionally has taken a liberal view on abortion rights”

Leaving Nadine aside, so have the Tories. Given this is a free vote I hope that her argument re Labour MPs carries over to the liberal Tories also or we are in trouble.

“They (MPs) are mostly men. They’re not going to think about abortion, and they are afraid that if they put their head above the parapet, that the Catholic lobby… the Baptist lobby… whatever it is… [they] will lose their seats.’”

Yup re the male MPs generally though it was still male MPs who brought the original legislation to bear on case law originally. I don’t think the feminists can claim this and i would rather they did not as it polarises the issue further.

The religious issue you touch on for example. We can thank the American Right for that. The influence they have had over here in recent years has been growing and their tactics brought across. If we do want to fight this properly in the future the last thing you want to do is polarise it further with feminists being the only people involved in applying pressure. That is precisely what they want to happen.The way that has worked out in America has been to the pro choice lobby’s detriment. I do not want to see the American approach to abortion duplicated over here.

“the requirement for two doctors’ signatures for women who want abortions”. That didn’t really feature as an issue for myself or any of the women who have had abortions. So i won’t be a compromise of any sorts that MPs can comsole themselves with. The more pressing issue is the lack of doctors willing to specialise and better access to the abortion pill.

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