Comments on: Labour’s “relaunch” and what it ought to do. http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/ If there wasn't one before, it's time we started it... Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:22:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: septicisle http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/#comment-9886 septicisle Wed, 07 May 2008 18:16:43 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/#comment-9886 You're quite right of course, I also support Chris's suggestion: http://www.septicisle.info/2008/05/gordon-brown-politics-and-courage.html Need to lay off the Toynbee I think... You’re quite right of course, I also support Chris’s suggestion: http://www.septicisle.info/2008/05/gordon-brown-politics-and-courage.html

Need to lay off the Toynbee I think…

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/#comment-9873 Sunny Hundal Wed, 07 May 2008 15:18:15 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/#comment-9873 bloody hell, I'm in agreement with cjcjc about something. bloody hell, I’m in agreement with cjcjc about something.

]]> By: cjcjc http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/#comment-9856 cjcjc Wed, 07 May 2008 13:23:51 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/#comment-9856 <i> it’s simply unattainable and completely unrealistic without far more targeted help being provided, and Labour doesn’t have either the will or the funds to do it with. The less said about tax credits, the most hopeless and over-egged panacea of all time, the better. </i> But isn't Isn't the idea of "targetting" the rationale behind the lunacy of tax credits? What sort of targetting do you have in mind? I support Chris Dillow's idea - raise the tax threshold big time, simplify the whole system, scrap tax credits, even if some of the "undeserving" slightly better off benefit as well. Now I'm mad enough to think that sufficient savings could be found to allow this to happen without raising higher rates of tax. But if the top rate *had* to be raised to 45% then even I might support it over and above the current system which the poor struggle to navigate. it’s simply unattainable and completely unrealistic without far more targeted help being provided, and Labour doesn’t have either the will or the funds to do it with. The less said about tax credits, the most hopeless and over-egged panacea of all time, the better.

But isn’t Isn’t the idea of “targetting” the rationale behind the lunacy of tax credits?
What sort of targetting do you have in mind?

I support Chris Dillow’s idea - raise the tax threshold big time, simplify the whole system, scrap tax credits, even if some of the “undeserving” slightly better off benefit as well.

Now I’m mad enough to think that sufficient savings could be found to allow this to happen without raising higher rates of tax.
But if the top rate *had* to be raised to 45% then even I might support it over and above the current system which the poor struggle to navigate.

]]> By: Falco http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/#comment-9853 Falco Wed, 07 May 2008 13:03:17 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/07/labours-relaunch-and-what-it-ought-to-do/#comment-9853 "Labour’s pledge to end child poverty....(is) simply unattainable" and it will be until they stop using that stupid "relative poverty" measure. Far better to make the poor richer than to make the rich poorer in the name of cockeyed equality. “Labour’s pledge to end child poverty….(is) simply unattainable”

and it will be until they stop using that stupid “relative poverty” measure. Far better to make the poor richer than to make the rich poorer in the name of cockeyed equality.

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