Comments on: BBC: From dumb to dumber http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/ If there wasn't one before, it's time we started it... Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:05:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Rob http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9551 Rob Sat, 03 May 2008 15:34:25 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9551 "I realise that people are increasingly becoming apathetic to politics." Er, is that why turnout in 2008 was up? "Surely its NOT because we’re dumb idiots who have trouble paying attention or understanding how percentages move up or down." Apparently so in Sunny's case, at least regarding turnout. “I realise that people are increasingly becoming apathetic to politics.”

Er, is that why turnout in 2008 was up?

“Surely its NOT because we’re dumb idiots who have trouble paying attention or understanding how percentages move up or down.”

Apparently so in Sunny’s case, at least regarding turnout.

]]> By: Sean http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9527 Sean Sat, 03 May 2008 06:36:05 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9527 Is Portillo ill? He looks terribly gaunt these days. Austin Mitchell delivered the best line of the night, John McDonnell's face whilst Andy Burnham droned on was priceless, Ed Milliband makes me feel sick and Eric Pickles went an alarming shade of purple when Sarah Teather got on his nerves. The least said about Jeremy Vine, the better. Is Portillo ill? He looks terribly gaunt these days. Austin Mitchell delivered the best line of the night, John McDonnell’s face whilst Andy Burnham droned on was priceless, Ed Milliband makes me feel sick and Eric Pickles went an alarming shade of purple when Sarah Teather got on his nerves. The least said about Jeremy Vine, the better.

]]> By: Unity http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9485 Unity Fri, 02 May 2008 18:37:59 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9485 <i>shouldn’t we steer clear of gratutious references to Paul Staines and drink-driving?</i> Mmmm.... let me see... no. John served his time, paid his debt to society and all that justice done stuff, Guido has yet to do likewise - until then he's fair game. shouldn’t we steer clear of gratutious references to Paul Staines and drink-driving?

Mmmm…. let me see… no.

John served his time, paid his debt to society and all that justice done stuff, Guido has yet to do likewise - until then he’s fair game.

]]> By: Paul Linford http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9480 Paul Linford Fri, 02 May 2008 16:37:29 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9480 And another thing....shouldn't we steer clear of gratutious references to Paul Staines and drink-driving? Otherwise we are no better than those right-wing bloggers who continually refer to John Hirst as an "axe murderer." And another thing….shouldn’t we steer clear of gratutious references to Paul Staines and drink-driving? Otherwise we are no better than those right-wing bloggers who continually refer to John Hirst as an “axe murderer.”

]]> By: Unity http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9477 Unity Fri, 02 May 2008 16:02:18 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9477 <i>What is “the establishment” and how does it work?</i> At a time like this, 'the establishment' is whoever looks most likely to win the next general election and end up as the Beeb's 'boss'. What is “the establishment” and how does it work?

At a time like this, ‘the establishment’ is whoever looks most likely to win the next general election and end up as the Beeb’s ‘boss’.

]]> By: Phil Beesley http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9476 Phil Beesley Fri, 02 May 2008 15:56:13 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9476 Quote Sunny: "Maybe, being pro-establishment as they are, BBC executives have..." But I don't see BBC executives as being pro-establishment. By the method of appointment, BBC execs (board and management) are inevitably drawn from the boss class. That does not mean that every appointee agrees with a party line or a boss class consensus. What is "the establishment" and how does it work? Quote Sunny: “Maybe, being pro-establishment as they are, BBC executives have…”

But I don’t see BBC executives as being pro-establishment. By the method of appointment, BBC execs (board and management) are inevitably drawn from the boss class. That does not mean that every appointee agrees with a party line or a boss class consensus.

What is “the establishment” and how does it work?

]]> By: Ministry of Truth » Blog Archive » Election Night Redux http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9473 Ministry of Truth » Blog Archive » Election Night Redux Fri, 02 May 2008 15:13:00 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9473 [...] you just know when the Beeb has got it badly wrong when Iain Dale complained during rehearsals that the Beeb’s ‘Stalin to Bean’ shtick was perilously close to [...] [...] you just know when the Beeb has got it badly wrong when Iain Dale complained during rehearsals that the Beeb’s ‘Stalin to Bean’ shtick was perilously close to [...]

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9472 Sunny Hundal Fri, 02 May 2008 14:52:23 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9472 <i>But you always did…</i> No I don't... <i>if I were a Labour press officer I’d be spitting blood about it.</i> Yeah, true... <i>Sunny, does this mean you will be removing that pro-BBC sticker from PP?</i> I'm thinking about it... <i>Yes, Alix did mention that the blogosphere was reacting negatively to Vine, and Maitliss did swiftly move along.</i> She practically cut her off in trying to move on! BBC can't bloody take criticism these days.. its shocking. But you always did…

No I don’t…

if I were a Labour press officer I’d be spitting blood about it.

Yeah, true…

Sunny, does this mean you will be removing that pro-BBC sticker from PP?

I’m thinking about it…

Yes, Alix did mention that the blogosphere was reacting negatively to Vine, and Maitliss did swiftly move along.

She practically cut her off in trying to move on! BBC can’t bloody take criticism these days.. its shocking.

]]> By: Different Duncan http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9450 Different Duncan Fri, 02 May 2008 10:39:11 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9450 I actually didn't mind the Jeremy Vine silliness first time around, but when he started doing his Stalin Mr Bean thing the third time around then I was getting fed up. My bigger complaint is David Dimbleby. He seemed totally clueless as to what was going on, he frequently interrupted politicians after they had just started asking questions, several times he introduced the wrong thing, his commentary on the changes to councillors didn't keep up with the graphics. I think the BBC need to move him on and find someone else. Huw Edwards would probably be able to keep up with the pace, for instance. I actually didn’t mind the Jeremy Vine silliness first time around, but when he started doing his Stalin Mr Bean thing the third time around then I was getting fed up.

My bigger complaint is David Dimbleby. He seemed totally clueless as to what was going on, he frequently interrupted politicians after they had just started asking questions, several times he introduced the wrong thing, his commentary on the changes to councillors didn’t keep up with the graphics. I think the BBC need to move him on and find someone else. Huw Edwards would probably be able to keep up with the pace, for instance.

]]> By: Jennie http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9439 Jennie Fri, 02 May 2008 09:42:13 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9439 Yes, Alix did mention that the blogosphere was reacting negatively to Vine, and Maitliss did swiftly move along. Yes, Alix did mention that the blogosphere was reacting negatively to Vine, and Maitliss did swiftly move along.

]]> By: Rob Knight http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9431 Rob Knight Fri, 02 May 2008 08:20:46 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9431 It was shockingly bad. The various guest politicians were obviously too polite to mention it, though they all looked fairly dumbfounded at various points throughout the evening. The only people capable of pointing out how dreadful the graphics were were the bloggers (if memory serves, Alix said quite straightforwardly that the reaction from the blogosphere was negative, which caused Emily Maitlis to <em>move swiftly on</em> to something else). It was shockingly bad. The various guest politicians were obviously too polite to mention it, though they all looked fairly dumbfounded at various points throughout the evening. The only people capable of pointing out how dreadful the graphics were were the bloggers (if memory serves, Alix said quite straightforwardly that the reaction from the blogosphere was negative, which caused Emily Maitlis to move swiftly on to something else).

]]> By: Morning Glory http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9430 Morning Glory Fri, 02 May 2008 08:16:33 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9430 Sunny, does this mean you will be removing that pro-BBC sticker from PP? Sunny, does this mean you will be removing that pro-BBC sticker from PP?

]]> By: Iain Dale http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9427 Iain Dale Fri, 02 May 2008 07:51:14 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9427 Not only that, but Luke Akehurst will confirm that during the Election Night Rehearsal at the BBC on Wednesday afternoon I told the editor of the programme and David Dimbleby that I thought the Stalin sequence bordered on editorialising and if I were a Labour press officer I'd be spitting blood about it. Not only that, but Luke Akehurst will confirm that during the Election Night Rehearsal at the BBC on Wednesday afternoon I told the editor of the programme and David Dimbleby that I thought the Stalin sequence bordered on editorialising and if I were a Labour press officer I’d be spitting blood about it.

]]> By: Paul Linford http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9426 Paul Linford Fri, 02 May 2008 07:48:03 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9426 To be fair to Iain Dale, he is saying much the same about the Vine stuff as you, Sunny. To be fair to Iain Dale, he is saying much the same about the Vine stuff as you, Sunny.

]]> By: cjcjc http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9424 cjcjc Fri, 02 May 2008 07:26:31 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/05/02/bbc-from-dumb-to-dumber/#comment-9424 <i> Either way, if Iain Dale complains from now that the BBC is biased against the Tories I will start calling him a conspiracy loon. </i> But you always did... The coverage was dreadful as you say - the BBC lost it a very long time ago. I'm glad you're no longer in denial anyway! Either way, if Iain Dale complains from now that the BBC is biased against the Tories I will start calling him a conspiracy loon.

But you always did…

The coverage was dreadful as you say - the BBC lost it a very long time ago.
I’m glad you’re no longer in denial anyway!

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