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	<title>Comments on: Manipulating politics through religion</title>
	<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/03/24/manipulating-politics-through-religion/</link>
	<description>If there wasn't one before, it's time we started it...</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Simon Barrow</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/03/24/manipulating-politics-through-religion/#comment-9573</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Barrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 21:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And after watching this 'quick reference' propaganda video, try http://www.newsweek.com/id/124365 and Free Tibet http://www.freetibet.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And after watching this &#8216;quick reference&#8217; propaganda video, try <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/124365" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/124365</a> and Free Tibet <a href="http://www.freetibet.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freetibet.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: yexiaonan</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/03/24/manipulating-politics-through-religion/#comment-9530</link>
		<dc:creator>yexiaonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 06:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"China wants Dalai Lama to keep out of politics - and Tibet" seems neither here nor there. 

Dalai Lama as the religious and spiritual leader of Tibet Buddhism  while being the head of Tibet Government In-Exile ("TGIE") is not only mixing religion with politics, but is in fact using religion as a pretext to pursue his political agenda.

His political demands are often hidden and being drowned out by his call for human right, cultural preservation and compassion.

To understand Dalai Lama's political demands, one only needs to understand firstly
the "Sino-China 17-Point Agreement" which he enthusiastically endorsed in 1951
which he later rescinded (leading to his escape or "exile" in 1959).

Also, one needs to understand his so-called "Middle Way" approach for a political settlement with China; mainly seeking a return to theocratic rule of a "Greater Tibet"
head by him and his former nobility, local chieftan and serf-owning supporters.

Herein lies Dalai Lama's deceit and hyprocrisy.

For a qucik reference, one may go to YouTube to search for "7 Lies About Tibet and
His Holiness".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;China wants Dalai Lama to keep out of politics - and Tibet&#8221; seems neither here nor there. </p>
<p>Dalai Lama as the religious and spiritual leader of Tibet Buddhism  while being the head of Tibet Government In-Exile (&#8221;TGIE&#8221;) is not only mixing religion with politics, but is in fact using religion as a pretext to pursue his political agenda.</p>
<p>His political demands are often hidden and being drowned out by his call for human right, cultural preservation and compassion.</p>
<p>To understand Dalai Lama&#8217;s political demands, one only needs to understand firstly<br />
the &#8220;Sino-China 17-Point Agreement&#8221; which he enthusiastically endorsed in 1951<br />
which he later rescinded (leading to his escape or &#8220;exile&#8221; in 1959).</p>
<p>Also, one needs to understand his so-called &#8220;Middle Way&#8221; approach for a political settlement with China; mainly seeking a return to theocratic rule of a &#8220;Greater Tibet&#8221;<br />
head by him and his former nobility, local chieftan and serf-owning supporters.</p>
<p>Herein lies Dalai Lama&#8217;s deceit and hyprocrisy.</p>
<p>For a qucik reference, one may go to YouTube to search for &#8220;7 Lies About Tibet and<br />
His Holiness&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/03/24/manipulating-politics-through-religion/#comment-7461</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/03/24/manipulating-politics-through-religion/#comment-7461</guid>
		<description>Simon,

That is a good article. The problem with extremists of either a religious or secular bent, is that they cut the ground out from under folk who would probably find that they agree more than they disagree, whatever the label on the tin.

The problem, it seems to me, is that some atheists are now seeing it as a badge of courage to go around saying religionists are deluded nutters - this is their language, not mine - and conversely religious leaders are trying to steer their flock into deeply conservative positions, with no scriptural basis whatsoever.

Neither position is particularily helpful to folk who occupy any sort of middle ground.

OK, I don't think there is a God, but it isn't the ultimate definition of me, likewise you appear to think that there is a God, but it isn't ultimately the definition of you either. Despite what you might think :-)

I am, for your amusement, a doubting atheist.

Oh, and I agree on the free vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>That is a good article. The problem with extremists of either a religious or secular bent, is that they cut the ground out from under folk who would probably find that they agree more than they disagree, whatever the label on the tin.</p>
<p>The problem, it seems to me, is that some atheists are now seeing it as a badge of courage to go around saying religionists are deluded nutters - this is their language, not mine - and conversely religious leaders are trying to steer their flock into deeply conservative positions, with no scriptural basis whatsoever.</p>
<p>Neither position is particularily helpful to folk who occupy any sort of middle ground.</p>
<p>OK, I don&#8217;t think there is a God, but it isn&#8217;t the ultimate definition of me, likewise you appear to think that there is a God, but it isn&#8217;t ultimately the definition of you either. Despite what you might think :-)</p>
<p>I am, for your amusement, a doubting atheist.</p>
<p>Oh, and I agree on the free vote.</p>
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