Comments on: Super Tuesday: Obama wins big, but Clinton takes Cali http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/ If there wasn't one before, it's time we started it... Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:05:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Lee Griffin http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4686 Lee Griffin Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:24:54 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4686 Well the software stood up to most things...it was working at the end I was just elsewhere! Certainly makes it more interesting to follow these things. Well the software stood up to most things…it was working at the end I was just elsewhere! Certainly makes it more interesting to follow these things.

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4680 Sunny Hundal Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:03:43 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4680 Around 12am I'm going to start the interactive discussion applet on here. Come back then! Around 12am I’m going to start the interactive discussion applet on here. Come back then!

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4679 Sunny Hundal Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:03:11 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4679 Some of them have already started coming in. On others, I expect that CNN and others will soon start making predictions once voting closes and exit polls come in. Some of them have already started coming in. On others, I expect that CNN and others will soon start making predictions once voting closes and exit polls come in.

]]> By: Lee Griffin http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4678 Lee Griffin Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:29:09 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4678 So, I guess the question is what is the timetable for tonight? When can we expect the results to really start flowing? I'm assuming that most polls haven't closed yet So, I guess the question is what is the timetable for tonight? When can we expect the results to really start flowing? I’m assuming that most polls haven’t closed yet

]]> By: Dave Cole http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4677 Dave Cole Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:53:30 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4677 I think Mass. will be a good, early indicator. If Romney does not win his home state by a substantial margin - ten, fifteen points - he will be holed below the waterline. I think Mass. will be a good, early indicator. If Romney does not win his home state by a substantial margin - ten, fifteen points - he will be holed below the waterline.

]]> By: leon http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4676 leon Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:25:58 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4676 Heh this is crazy, a Twitter/Google Maps mash up allowing real time map based Twitter updates on the voting tonight! http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http://www.google.com/mapfiles/mapplets/elections/2008/primary/primaries.xml&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-google-mp&utm_term=decision2008 Heh this is crazy, a Twitter/Google Maps mash up allowing real time map based Twitter updates on the voting tonight!

http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http://www.google.com/mapfiles/mapplets/elections/2008/primary/primaries.xml&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-google-mp&utm_term=decision2008

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4675 Sunny Hundal Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:59:02 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4675 Poor Romney, he wishes Huckabee wasn't around to dig into his vote. CNN is now stating that Huckabee's taken West Virginia, with help from McCain! Will McCain take Huckabee as his running mate so he can shore up the social conservatives vote? Poor Romney, he wishes Huckabee wasn’t around to dig into his vote.

CNN is now stating that Huckabee’s taken West Virginia, with help from McCain! Will McCain take Huckabee as his running mate so he can shore up the social conservatives vote?

]]> By: shariq http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4674 shariq Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:03:22 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4674 http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/west_virginia_intrigue.php#comments http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/west_virginia_intrigue.php#comments

]]> By: shariq http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4673 shariq Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:02:57 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4673 apparently huckabee has taken west virginia with a little help from john mccain. apparently huckabee has taken west virginia with a little help from john mccain.

]]> By: shariq http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4672 shariq Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:54:18 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4672 this is pretty funny. http://www.slate.com/id/2183594/ on a serious note it does make me think about how pre-determined my support for obama is and the extent of my own free-will. oh well, nothing i can do about it anyway. this is pretty funny.
http://www.slate.com/id/2183594/

on a serious note it does make me think about how pre-determined my support for obama is and the extent of my own free-will. oh well, nothing i can do about it anyway.

]]> By: leon http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4671 leon Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:43:56 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4671 Lee 1# Yeah I saw that too, very interesting viewing that. I wonder how relevant it is and if Democratic voters are thinking along those lines? Lee 1#

Yeah I saw that too, very interesting viewing that. I wonder how relevant it is and if Democratic voters are thinking along those lines?

]]> By: Aaron Heath http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4669 Aaron Heath Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:35:20 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4669 The most important factor is how the Edwards followers vote. This migration is Super Tuesday's key dynamic. I think Obama will get the bulk of them. The most important factor is how the Edwards followers vote.

This migration is Super Tuesday’s key dynamic. I think Obama will get the bulk of them.

]]> By: Lee Griffin http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4668 Lee Griffin Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:19:03 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4668 It's cheap cinema time, but I'm actually a more stoked for the rest of the night after I think. ;) It’s cheap cinema time, but I’m actually a more stoked for the rest of the night after I think. ;)

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4665 Sunny Hundal Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:05:49 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4665 Yeah thats coming up! A bit later, when the results start coming in. Its easy to start up and then insert in the code... Yeah thats coming up! A bit later, when the results start coming in. Its easy to start up and then insert in the code…

]]> By: leon http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4662 leon Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:52:43 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4662 Oi where's the cool live blogging software!? Oi where’s the cool live blogging software!?

]]> By: DonaldS http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4661 DonaldS Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:41:25 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4661 McCain will lose to whoever runs against him. The GOP hardcore just won't turn out. That line's a bit of a red herring, if you ask me. McCain will lose to whoever runs against him. The GOP hardcore just won’t turn out. That line’s a bit of a red herring, if you ask me.

]]> By: Lee Griffin http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4660 Lee Griffin Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:22:04 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/05/super-duper-tuesday-open-all-night-thread/#comment-4660 More 4 ran a piece last night that, while far from scientific, just went to show in the midwest how people were very positive about Obama and distrusting of Hillary. They also generally voted McCain if Hillary was running against him but against McCain if Obama was against him. As I say, far from scientific but you could feel the completely different attitudes in these swing voters about both democrat party contenders. I think the democrats have to look sharp now, they've got the polls around them, they have the evidence that Obama is on the up vs McCain while Clinton is on the down...they can see that the idea of a McCain vs Clinton is not looking like it'd go her way. It is also pretty damn clear that McCain is going to take the Republican race tonight. So why on earth would anyone continue to vote Clinton unless a signed up for life member of her fan club? Obama has picked up almost 10 points on the polls in the last half a month alone while Hillary, as I personally expected, picked up more points when Edwards left the race. The question is now I guess are the democrats going to fight for a presidential victory or are they going to fight over internal politics, because one way or another, whoever is the "better" candidate of the two doesn't matter now...what should matter to them is who those independent voters that will need to be persuaded in future months will follow in greater numbers, and right now that person is clearly Obama. More 4 ran a piece last night that, while far from scientific, just went to show in the midwest how people were very positive about Obama and distrusting of Hillary. They also generally voted McCain if Hillary was running against him but against McCain if Obama was against him. As I say, far from scientific but you could feel the completely different attitudes in these swing voters about both democrat party contenders.

I think the democrats have to look sharp now, they’ve got the polls around them, they have the evidence that Obama is on the up vs McCain while Clinton is on the down…they can see that the idea of a McCain vs Clinton is not looking like it’d go her way. It is also pretty damn clear that McCain is going to take the Republican race tonight. So why on earth would anyone continue to vote Clinton unless a signed up for life member of her fan club?

Obama has picked up almost 10 points on the polls in the last half a month alone while Hillary, as I personally expected, picked up more points when Edwards left the race.

The question is now I guess are the democrats going to fight for a presidential victory or are they going to fight over internal politics, because one way or another, whoever is the “better” candidate of the two doesn’t matter now…what should matter to them is who those independent voters that will need to be persuaded in future months will follow in greater numbers, and right now that person is clearly Obama.

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