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	<title>Comments on: Pipe down, Christian soldiers</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4352</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate Belgrave,

I'd have thought,  that if Nadine Dorries ain't willing to talk to folk on her own site, she'd be quite unlikely to jump into the bear pit here. Still, we live in hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate Belgrave,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have thought,  that if Nadine Dorries ain&#8217;t willing to talk to folk on her own site, she&#8217;d be quite unlikely to jump into the bear pit here. Still, we live in hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4178</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated above Cath</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updated above Cath</p>
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		<title>By: Cath Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4162</link>
		<dc:creator>Cath Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over in the US, today is the 35th anniversary of Roe V Wade. NARAL Pro-Choice America are calling on bloggers to take part in Blog for Choice day:

"Blog for Choice Day provides us with an opportunity to raise the profile of reproductive rights in the blogosphere and the media, while celebrating Roe's 35th anniversary. Plus, it's a great way to let your readers and the mainstream media know that a woman's right to choose is a core progressive value that must be protected."

http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/choice-action-center/bfc08-home.html

Sunny, it might be an idea to link to Kate's piece - give Blog for Choice Day a true international flavour.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over in the US, today is the 35th anniversary of Roe V Wade. NARAL Pro-Choice America are calling on bloggers to take part in Blog for Choice day:</p>
<p>&#8220;Blog for Choice Day provides us with an opportunity to raise the profile of reproductive rights in the blogosphere and the media, while celebrating Roe&#8217;s 35th anniversary. Plus, it&#8217;s a great way to let your readers and the mainstream media know that a woman&#8217;s right to choose is a core progressive value that must be protected.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/choice-action-center/bfc08-home.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/choice-action-center/bfc08-home.html</a></p>
<p>Sunny, it might be an idea to link to Kate&#8217;s piece - give Blog for Choice Day a true international flavour&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4158</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite good though, isn't?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite good though, isn&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4155</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a girl, I've never had 'nads... OH! I see what you mean ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a girl, I&#8217;ve never had &#8216;nads&#8230; OH! I see what you mean ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4151</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jennie.  Yep, still here.

No Nads yet, I see. 

Pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jennie.  Yep, still here.</p>
<p>No Nads yet, I see. </p>
<p>Pity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming you've not been struck down yet, your mention is in the third (last) section here: http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/33412.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming you&#8217;ve not been struck down yet, your mention is in the third (last) section here: <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/33412.html" rel="nofollow">http://community.livejournal.com/theyorkshergob/33412.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I'm sure he's reading... there's no need to call him :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s reading&#8230; there&#8217;s no need to call him :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4140</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>s t i l l 

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Perhaps Iain Dale would like to come over here - and bring the charming Nadine Dorries with him, of course  - and tell us why Conservatives want the brakes put on abortion law? Nadine has, alas, ignored my friendly overtures thus far...

Can persons of influence who read/write Lib Conspiracy go and get Iain and Nads? 

Cool.</description>
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<p>Perhaps Iain Dale would like to come over here - and bring the charming Nadine Dorries with him, of course  - and tell us why Conservatives want the brakes put on abortion law? Nadine has, alas, ignored my friendly overtures thus far&#8230;</p>
<p>Can persons of influence who read/write Lib Conspiracy go and get Iain and Nads? </p>
<p>Cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4126</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STILL

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STILL</p>
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<p>ok - 5.30pm</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4118</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still here. 

Will give them another half an hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still here. </p>
<p>Will give them another half an hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4116</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in my ever-helpful fashion conducting an empirical experiment right here at my desk, just so we can settle this thing for once and for all - in the interests of fact-based findings, I have asked the Lord Jesus H Christ/Allah/Whomever to strike me dead with one of his legendary bolts by 4pm if He/She/Whomever wants me to shut it forevermore on abortion rights.

Will report back at 4.01pm, unless I come second.

I am keeping really still in my chair, just to help the other side along a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in my ever-helpful fashion conducting an empirical experiment right here at my desk, just so we can settle this thing for once and for all - in the interests of fact-based findings, I have asked the Lord Jesus H Christ/Allah/Whomever to strike me dead with one of his legendary bolts by 4pm if He/She/Whomever wants me to shut it forevermore on abortion rights.</p>
<p>Will report back at 4.01pm, unless I come second.</p>
<p>I am keeping really still in my chair, just to help the other side along a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4115</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha ha! I think we need some posts updating us on all these protests too... Thanks Kate, keep writing on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha ha! I think we need some posts updating us on all these protests too&#8230; Thanks Kate, keep writing on this!</p>
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		<title>By: Cath Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4107</link>
		<dc:creator>Cath Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hugh Muir had it right in his Guardian diary last week when he wrote:

"A formidable show of strength but security officials were clearly very nervous. When last so many women went to parliament, they headed for the railings."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/diary/story/0,,2242742,00.html

Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hugh Muir had it right in his Guardian diary last week when he wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;A formidable show of strength but security officials were clearly very nervous. When last so many women went to parliament, they headed for the railings.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/diary/story/0,,2242742,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/diary/story/0,,2242742,00.html</a></p>
<p>Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4101</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this post very much, and am going to link to it on my own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post very much, and am going to link to it on my own blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4099</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it was quite amusing when Emily Thornberry said the coppers were starting to panic. Lots of females in a group (except at an orgy, I guess) really worry some lawmaking and lawkeeping blokes.

Feminist Fightback is picketing the Christian Medical Fellowship this Friday as well, I think. It's all on!

Not too worried about the Christians, really. I doubt their reach. If the Lord really didn't like my take on abortion, he would have pushed me under a bus by now. 

xxxxx Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it was quite amusing when Emily Thornberry said the coppers were starting to panic. Lots of females in a group (except at an orgy, I guess) really worry some lawmaking and lawkeeping blokes.</p>
<p>Feminist Fightback is picketing the Christian Medical Fellowship this Friday as well, I think. It&#8217;s all on!</p>
<p>Not too worried about the Christians, really. I doubt their reach. If the Lord really didn&#8217;t like my take on abortion, he would have pushed me under a bus by now. </p>
<p>xxxxx Kate</p>
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		<title>By: Cath Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4089</link>
		<dc:creator>Cath Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kate, and thanks for this. It was a great meeting, and it was amazing to see so many women in parliament - perhaps they'd better start getting used to it though, Instead of rushing around in a panic like they were doing last week. Hehehe. 

Anyway, just thought I'd take the opportunity to advertise the upcoming protest against Ann Widdecome's road show:  

"Abortion Rights has called a peaceful pro-choice protest against anti-abortion MP Ann Widdecome’s road show ‘Not on your life . .. or anyone else’s’ which is promoting anti-abortion goals around the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill. (subject to police permission). 
Assemble outside Central Hall Westminster 
Wednesday 6th February, 6.30pm"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kate, and thanks for this. It was a great meeting, and it was amazing to see so many women in parliament - perhaps they&#8217;d better start getting used to it though, Instead of rushing around in a panic like they were doing last week. Hehehe. </p>
<p>Anyway, just thought I&#8217;d take the opportunity to advertise the upcoming protest against Ann Widdecome&#8217;s road show:  </p>
<p>&#8220;Abortion Rights has called a peaceful pro-choice protest against anti-abortion MP Ann Widdecome’s road show ‘Not on your life . .. or anyone else’s’ which is promoting anti-abortion goals around the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill. (subject to police permission).<br />
Assemble outside Central Hall Westminster<br />
Wednesday 6th February, 6.30pm&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4088</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure of the voting records off the top of my head, but I’ll check them this evening after work. 

I can say that both of Nadine Dorries’ recent attempts to lower the time limit and to introduce a compulsory ten-day cooling-off period (something I need every time she opens her gob) last year were beaten resoundingly. 

Most MPs seem to understand that the majority view favours the existing legislation and indeed favours a modernising and liberalising of it. (The Abortion Rights website has these numbers. Liberalising the law would include getting rid of the current need for two GPs signatures, and allowing nurses and other health professionals to perform the procedure).

The main concern we pro-choicers have is the noise made by pro-lifers. They’re a small group, but they’re very loud and very crazy and the mainstream media loves them. They will lobby MPs with a passion as the Fertilisation &#38; Embryology Bill progresses, and I imagine the likes of the Daily Mail will help them all the way. 

Conservative bloggers should know better that to support the extremists, but on they go. I vaguely remember seeing Iain Dale on 18 Doughty Street last year, faffing about the subject with some man of the cloth or other, both of them telling each other that it was time to take a big breath and reconsider abortion law from a conversative perspective, etc. Can’t remember exactly how that one wrapped on account of chucking a brick through the telly. 

Nadine Dorries is the real horror, though. She’s the one playing the emotive card – her gig is to play up the one percent of abortions that take place after 24 weeks. Very few abortions – well, only about one percent, as I say – take place at or after 24 weeks, but old Nadine’s game is to put the emphasis of the argument on that one percent, and thus call into question the whole process and morality of abortion. 

She’s BAD.

Good to see John Bercow going off at the above meeting, though. I wonder if his view is representative of the Conservatives in general. Given that they may end up in government in a couple of years, I very much hope so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure of the voting records off the top of my head, but I’ll check them this evening after work. </p>
<p>I can say that both of Nadine Dorries’ recent attempts to lower the time limit and to introduce a compulsory ten-day cooling-off period (something I need every time she opens her gob) last year were beaten resoundingly. </p>
<p>Most MPs seem to understand that the majority view favours the existing legislation and indeed favours a modernising and liberalising of it. (The Abortion Rights website has these numbers. Liberalising the law would include getting rid of the current need for two GPs signatures, and allowing nurses and other health professionals to perform the procedure).</p>
<p>The main concern we pro-choicers have is the noise made by pro-lifers. They’re a small group, but they’re very loud and very crazy and the mainstream media loves them. They will lobby MPs with a passion as the Fertilisation &amp; Embryology Bill progresses, and I imagine the likes of the Daily Mail will help them all the way. </p>
<p>Conservative bloggers should know better that to support the extremists, but on they go. I vaguely remember seeing Iain Dale on 18 Doughty Street last year, faffing about the subject with some man of the cloth or other, both of them telling each other that it was time to take a big breath and reconsider abortion law from a conversative perspective, etc. Can’t remember exactly how that one wrapped on account of chucking a brick through the telly. </p>
<p>Nadine Dorries is the real horror, though. She’s the one playing the emotive card – her gig is to play up the one percent of abortions that take place after 24 weeks. Very few abortions – well, only about one percent, as I say – take place at or after 24 weeks, but old Nadine’s game is to put the emphasis of the argument on that one percent, and thus call into question the whole process and morality of abortion. </p>
<p>She’s BAD.</p>
<p>Good to see John Bercow going off at the above meeting, though. I wonder if his view is representative of the Conservatives in general. Given that they may end up in government in a couple of years, I very much hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye. Nothing to add other than to say great post, Kate.</description>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/20/pipe-down-christian-soldiers/#comment-4082</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this update Kate - very informative. So what happens from here? Are there any Labour MPs opposing this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this update Kate - very informative. So what happens from here? Are there any Labour MPs opposing this?</p>
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