Comments on: Why I’m supporting John Edwards - an appeal to the Left http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/ If there wasn't one before, it's time we started it... Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:25:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: douglas clark http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3662 douglas clark Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:48:02 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3662 Alan Thomas, I've only recently taken to listening to what all the candidates have to say, apart from earlier exposure to Barak Obamas oratory. Which is hugely impressive. You are however, quite right, John Edwards is the true, left wing, or liberal candidate. And he does speak truth to power. What's not to like? Alan Thomas,

I’ve only recently taken to listening to what all the candidates have to say, apart from earlier exposure to Barak Obamas oratory. Which is hugely impressive. You are however, quite right, John Edwards is the true, left wing, or liberal candidate. And he does speak truth to power. What’s not to like?

]]> By: Derek Wall http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3655 Derek Wall Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:38:53 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3655 From my Common Dreams Blog http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/03/6140/ Millions of American voters simply don’t vote, especially African-Americans, so a strong African-American politician with name recognition and radical policies could do well. The US system is ridiculously biased against third parties, independents and those who are not billionaires, but Cynthia already has a huge web presence. She is a feisty politician who has been the target of the deep vein of racism that infects US politics; yet, resisting the attacks, she always comes back. She will be campaigning for withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq, for a proper health care system, for greater social equality and for all the headline environmental policies we need - from real action on climate change, to preserving the US’ fast-disappearing wildlife. I like her personally: she doesn’t seem like an American politician at all, with a manufactured personality, but more like a human being. And I like what she has to say: “Americans are gathering the courage to just say no. We are saying no to addictive consumer lifestyles. We are saying no to wars and corporate takeover and the IMF loans that gobble up people and their resources. “And all over the world, people are saying, if you are committing these acts in my name, then don’t. If you are committing these acts - waging war on the innocent, destroying the environment, buying bombs when babies need bottles … then don’t do it for me. Not in my name, not in the name of my child.” From my Common Dreams Blog http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/03/6140/

Millions of American voters simply don’t vote, especially African-Americans, so a strong African-American politician with name recognition and radical policies could do well. The US system is ridiculously biased against third parties, independents and those who are not billionaires, but Cynthia already has a huge web presence. She is a feisty politician who has been the target of the deep vein of racism that infects US politics; yet, resisting the attacks, she always comes back.

She will be campaigning for withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq, for a proper health care system, for greater social equality and for all the headline environmental policies we need - from real action on climate change, to preserving the US’ fast-disappearing wildlife. I like her personally: she doesn’t seem like an American politician at all, with a manufactured personality, but more like a human being. And I like what she has to say:

“Americans are gathering the courage to just say no. We are saying no to addictive consumer lifestyles. We are saying no to wars and corporate takeover and the IMF loans that gobble up people and their resources.

“And all over the world, people are saying, if you are committing these acts in my name, then don’t. If you are committing these acts - waging war on the innocent, destroying the environment, buying bombs when babies need bottles … then don’t do it for me. Not in my name, not in the name of my child.”

]]> By: Alan Thomas http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3319 Alan Thomas Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:31:43 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3319 You clearly only read the first paragraph, Jim. Well done. I <i>do</i> clarify why I'm supporting Edwards, and 90% of my article is devoted to my reasons for calling for a vote for the Democrats, and for him. Furthermore it takes some kind of background to think that telling the truth about the dismal success record of the Trotskyite movement in the UK is "left baiting". You clearly only read the first paragraph, Jim. Well done. I do clarify why I’m supporting Edwards, and 90% of my article is devoted to my reasons for calling for a vote for the Democrats, and for him.

Furthermore it takes some kind of background to think that telling the truth about the dismal success record of the Trotskyite movement in the UK is “left baiting”.

]]> By: jim jay http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3305 jim jay Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:50:23 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3305 It's a strange "appeal to the left" which consists almost entirely of left baiting. I was rather hoping for a piece that clarified what Edwards stood for rather than how you felt about Trotskyists. Oh well. Having said that I think you're right about Clinton and whilst she has supporters she seems to be the most hated of the candidates by both Republicans and Democrats. It’s a strange “appeal to the left” which consists almost entirely of left baiting. I was rather hoping for a piece that clarified what Edwards stood for rather than how you felt about Trotskyists. Oh well.

Having said that I think you’re right about Clinton and whilst she has supporters she seems to be the most hated of the candidates by both Republicans and Democrats.

]]> By: anticant http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3303 anticant Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:06:55 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3303 Mike Gravel is the best Democratic candidate, but he won't get the nomination because he's too honest and too old. Pity! Mike Gravel is the best Democratic candidate, but he won’t get the nomination because he’s too honest and too old. Pity!

]]> By: Alan Thomas http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3171 Alan Thomas Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:58:04 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3171 Why does your head say Hillary? She's the worst performer of the "big three" Democratic candidates in any general election match-up. Why does your head say Hillary? She’s the worst performer of the “big three” Democratic candidates in any general election match-up.

]]> By: centre-left http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3166 centre-left Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:52:24 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3166 I totally disagree. Edwards is not going to gain the Democratic nomination. He offers little in comparison to Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama. Clinton is the Iron Lady of American politics and and Obama is the youthful idealist and dreamer. Edwards is another Kerry-like candidate that the Democrats chose out of fear of being anything but mediocre in an attempt to not scaring off voters. This election will see stronger candidates with a greater attempt of arguing the Liberal cause rather than trying not to upset too many people. Edwards offers the right issues but not the right style. Obama is bold and charasmatic, Hilary is bold and firm. Edwards is neither and was a major hinderance to the democrats in 2004. My head says Hilary, my heart says Obama. I totally disagree. Edwards is not going to gain the Democratic nomination. He offers little in comparison to Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama. Clinton is the Iron Lady of American politics and and Obama is the youthful idealist and dreamer. Edwards is another Kerry-like candidate that the Democrats chose out of fear of being anything but mediocre in an attempt to not scaring off voters. This election will see stronger candidates with a greater attempt of arguing the Liberal cause rather than trying not to upset too many people.

Edwards offers the right issues but not the right style. Obama is bold and charasmatic, Hilary is bold and firm. Edwards is neither and was a major hinderance to the democrats in 2004.
My head says Hilary, my heart says Obama.

]]> By: US Elections 2008: Support John Edwards! « Shiraz Socialist http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3089 US Elections 2008: Support John Edwards! « Shiraz Socialist Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:10:48 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3089 [...] candidate in those elections under some circumstances, including this time around. Here is an article that I recently wrote giving some reasons [...] [...] candidate in those elections under some circumstances, including this time around. Here is an article that I recently wrote giving some reasons [...]

]]> By: Right Democrat http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3076 Right Democrat Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:50:48 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3076 John Edwards can build a new Democratic majority around ecomomic populism and win back working class-middle class voters. Edwards is the only major Presidential contender focusing on the pocketbook issues like health care, family wages and jobs. Democrats must nominate Edwards in '08. John Edwards can build a new Democratic majority around ecomomic populism and win back working class-middle class voters. Edwards is the only major Presidential contender focusing on the pocketbook issues like health care, family wages and jobs. Democrats must nominate Edwards in ‘08.

]]> By: Alan Thomas http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3047 Alan Thomas Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:00:01 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3047 She was a Republican more or less until she got it together with Bill. If you can point to anything much which suggests that she is secretly more left wing than Obama or Edwards (both of whom are on public record as having positions to her left) then I'd happily reconsider my stance. However I'd also be surprised. She was a Republican more or less until she got it together with Bill. If you can point to anything much which suggests that she is secretly more left wing than Obama or Edwards (both of whom are on public record as having positions to her left) then I’d happily reconsider my stance. However I’d also be surprised.

]]> By: Robert http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3042 Robert Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:41:05 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3042 <em>"No amount of waffle about the political significance of a female candidate for President can seriously make Clinton look like anything other than the right-wing machine politician that she is"</em> Hmm. From what I've read, I understand that the problem with Hilary is not that she is right-wing, but that she is secretly much more left wing than she admits to. This breeds distrust in both right and left leaning voters. “No amount of waffle about the political significance of a female candidate for President can seriously make Clinton look like anything other than the right-wing machine politician that she is”

Hmm. From what I’ve read, I understand that the problem with Hilary is not that she is right-wing, but that she is secretly much more left wing than she admits to. This breeds distrust in both right and left leaning voters.

]]> By: Alan Thomas http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3026 Alan Thomas Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:50:55 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3026 Or maybe abused their memory somewhat - lol fair point. Or maybe abused their memory somewhat - lol fair point.

]]> By: Anthony Barnett http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3018 Anthony Barnett Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:59:54 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-3018 "based on a combination of recruitment raiding, and Byzantine theorising" - without declaring an interest, if you read this Alan (just the opening the conclusion) you'll see that you have misused the term 'Byzantine'. http://www.penguin.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780713999976,00.html Happy New Year! “based on a combination of recruitment raiding, and Byzantine theorising” - without declaring an interest, if you read this Alan (just the opening the conclusion) you’ll see that you have misused the term ‘Byzantine’.
http://www.penguin.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780713999976,00.html

Happy New Year!

]]> By: AlanT http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-2968 AlanT Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:23:16 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2007/12/26/why-i%e2%80%99m-supporting-john-edwards-an-appeal-to-the-left/#comment-2968 First post by the way! Hello all! :) First post by the way! Hello all! :)

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